Lilac Turkey

[PorterTurkeys]

Tara,
Here is some info on lilacs.
This is in the Rare Heritage Turkey archives.
I will keep digging to find more.


Thu Nov 18, 1999
By Stan & Deb Swanson

Message #5490

Hey all:

Bonnie, ducking as she says this next bit, haven't found the info on
the Lilac in the old book, but do believe that some info is wrong about
the Lilacs in the census, etc. From what Cornell, etc., line has
proven, Lilac has bred true for at least a half a century. Don't have
the info on how long, 'tis possible that since day one the Lilac has
bred true. Sorry, Glenn, Paula, Merle, etc. There are no other colors
thrown off.
Guess I will stop there, she says as she is retreating/running from
rotten tomatoes, etc.


Toodleloo,
Deb


And Tara, Do you have a copy of the info from Taibel (1933) when the name lilac was first used on homozygous bronze based slates, b+b+DD ?
I really want to see you learn this stuff way better, so PLEASE keep an open mind here and don't just take my word for it, also do some research for yourself to find the facts.


Kevin

[PorterTurkeys]

Here's another one from the RHT files by Bonnie Meikle.

Message #15018
Seems that the 'lilac' that Glenn has is more like a 'red slate' sort of
thing, which has all the variants you talk about. The 'lilacs' like Jim Monk
and Tom Richardson have are the true breeding ones which Paula has suggested
we use the name 'lilac' for in order to avoid potential confusion. Now,
getting people to stop using the name 'lilac' for their red slates is going
to be a chore, for sure. We brought up some more of Glenn's 'lilacs' last
year, and there is real variation in the poults. A couple are the classic
'red slate', one is like a Bourbon Red/dark Buff but with a really unique
white breast (with the white extending up her neck). Others look like
Narragansett. I'm at a bit of a loss as to how I'm going to breed them.
Like, will I keep them as a group, or segregate the desired colors out?

~Bonnie

[PorterTurkeys]

Here's a post by a lilac breeder.
Jim Monk.
Message #26190

Hello.
I raise true breeding lilac turkeys. There has been a huge controversy in
the past over the names and color patterns of the lilac, red slate and
lavender turkeys. All of this info is what I have noticed over the past few
years. True lilacs breed true. I believe when breeding red slates
together you get three color patterns. The first and third pictures on the
following link shows true lilac turkeys. The second and fourth pictures are
actually red slates. www.feathersite.com/Poultry/Turkeys/BRKLilac.html

I have breeding lilacs for 3 years and never have had an off colored poult.
They have all looked like the first and third pictures of the above link. I
have a flock of 14 lilacs, the females are tremendous egg layers. My
females also tend to be larger than females of other breeds, like the
Bourbon reds, or buffs.
i hope this helps, if you like i can email you some photos of my birds.
Jim

Jim Monk & Patricia Yates
Desert Poultry
Artesia, NM.
www.geocities.com/desertpoultry

[PorterTurkeys]

By Franklin Albertsen,
Message #32243

Paula's quote in "Feathersite" was taken from Glenn Drowns' material - -
which was based on a response from Dr. Buss a few years ago. But I have been
informed personally that Dr. Buss felt he misanswered a question when he gave it
to
Glenn

[carlssc]

i have 2 blue slate hens and a lavender tom. with those 3 i hatched out blue slates and lavender slates this year. just put a blue slate in the fridge. still have a lavender slate tom looking to go to a breeder. sold 3 other lavender slates for stud toms this summer. my lavender tom is gorgeous. no red on him. palest of gray. no black spots. email me and i can send pictures. or if you are in the area come on over and meet him.

Shari Carlson
Shai-J Criations Alpacas
216 Bricktop Rd.
Windham, CT 06280
email: [e-mail]
www.alpacastreet.com/shaij_criations.asp